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The distance signal can not be switched off on the DC05-A or DC05-SA. <br>
 
The distance signal can not be switched off on the DC05-A or DC05-SA. <br>
  
=Kabelverbindung=
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= Cable connection =
'''1.Kabelverbindung''' <br>
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'''1.Cable connection''' <br>
Es werden nur 2 Kabel benötigt, wenn der Anhänger einen eigenen Akku hat <br>
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Only 2 cables are needed if the trailer has its own battery.<br>
3 Kabel werden benötigt, wenn der Anhänger keinen eigenen Akku hat und vom Akku des Motorwagens mit versorgt wird <br>
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3 cables are needed if the trailer does not have its own battery and is powered by the motor car
 
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==Mögliche Decoder==
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== Possible decoders ==
'''2. Mögliche Akku und Decoder Kombinationen'''<br>
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'''2. Possible battery and decoder combinations:''' <br>
<table border=1><tr><td width=100>Zusammen - stellung</td><td>LKW oder <br>Zugfahrzeug</td><td width=20>Kabel</td><td>Welche Spannung <br>wird übertragen</td><td> Anhänger</td></tr>
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<table border=1><tr><td width=100>Compilation</td><td>Truck or tractor</td><td width=20>Kabel</td><td>Which voltage<br>is transmitted</td><td>Trailer</td></tr>
<tr><td>1</td><td> DC07-SI (DC05-SI,DC04-SI) mit Akku 1-3 Volt <br>DC07-I (DC05-I,DC04-I, DC08-I)<br> mit Akku 3-5 Volt</td><td> 2 </td><td>keine</td><td>DC05-SI-A (DC04-SI-A) mit Akku 1-3 Volt<br>DC05-S-A (DC04-S-A) mit Akku 1-3 Volt<br>DC05-A (DC04-A) mit Akku 3-5 Volt</td></tr>
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<tr><td>1</td><td> DC07-SI (DC05-SI,DC04-SI) with battery 1-3 Volt <br>DC07-I (DC05-I,DC04-I, DC08-I)<br> with battery 3-5 Volt</td><td> 2 </td><td>no</td><td>DC05-SI-A (DC04-SI-A) with battery 1-3 Volt<br>DC05-S-A (DC04-S-A) with battery 1-3 Volt<br>DC05-A (DC04-A) with battery 3-5 Volt</td></tr>
<tr><td width=20>2</td><td>DC07-SI (DC05-SI) mit Akku 1-3 Volt<br>DC07-I (DC05-I,DC08-I) mit Akku 3-5 Volt<br></td><td> 3 </td><td>Akkuspannung 1-3 Volt<br>Akkuspannung 3-5 Volt</td><td>DC05-SI(DC04-SI) 1-3 Volt<br>DC06-I-A 3-5 Volt</td></tr>
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<tr><td width=20>2</td><td>DC07-SI (DC05-SI) with battery 1-3 Volt<br>DC07-I (DC05-I,DC08-I) with battery 3-5 Volt<br></td><td> 3 </td><td>Voltage 1-3 Volt<br>Voltage 3-5 Volt</td><td>DC05-SI(DC04-SI) 1-3 Volt<br>DC06-I-A 3-5 Volt</td></tr>
<tr><td>3 </td><td>DC07-SI (DC05-SI, DC04-SI) mit Akku </td><td>3 </td><td>+ 4 - 5 Volt</td><td> DC05-A, DC06-I-A (DC04-A)</td></tr>
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<tr><td>3 </td><td>DC07-SI (DC05-SI, DC04-SI) with battery </td><td>3 </td><td>+ 4 - 5 Volt</td><td> DC05-A, DC06-I-A (DC04-A)</td></tr>
<tr><td>4 </td><td>DC07-I (DC05-I) ohne Akku<br>DC07-I(DC05-I, DC08-I) ohne Akku </td><td>4 </td><td>+ 1 - 3 Volt und<br>+ 4 - 5 Volt</td><td> DC05-S-A mit Akku 1-3 Volt<br>DC05-A mit Akku 3-5 Volt </td></tr>
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<tr><td>4 </td><td>DC07-I (DC05-I) without battery<br>DC07-I(DC05-I, DC08-I) without battery </td><td>4 </td><td>+ 1 - 3 Volt and<br>+ 4 - 5 Volt</td><td> DC05-S-A with battery 1-3 Volt<br>DC05-A with battery 3-5 Volt </td></tr>
 
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==Anschlusspläne==
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==Connection diagramms==
 
[[File:kombi1.gif]]<br>
 
[[File:kombi1.gif]]<br>
'''Zusammenstellung 1'''    Zugfahrzeug  - Anhänger<br>
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'''Combination 1'''    Towing vehicle - trailer<br>
Motorwagen 1-3 V und Anhänger 1-3 V haben jeweils selber einen eigenen Akku<br>
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Motor car 1-3 V and trailer 1-3 V each have their own battery.<br>
  
 
[[File:kombi2.gif]]<br>
 
[[File:kombi2.gif]]<br>
'''Zusammenstellung 2'''    Zugfahrzeug  - Anhänger<br>
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'''Combination 2'''    Towing vehicle - trailer<br>
Motorwagen 1-3 V und der Anhänger werden vom selben Akku versorgt.<br>
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Motor vehicle 1-3 V and the trailer are powered by the same battery.<br>
  
 
[[File:kombi3.png]]<br>
 
[[File:kombi3.png]]<br>
'''Zusammenstellung 3'''    Zugfahrzeug  - Anhänger<br>
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'''Combination 3'''    Towing vehicle - trailer<br>
Motorwagen 1-3 V und der Anhänger wird mit 4 V vom Motorwagen versorgt.<br>
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Motor vehicle 1-3 V and the trailer is supplied with 4 V from the motor car.<br>
  
 
[[File:kombi4.png]]<br>
 
[[File:kombi4.png]]<br>
'''Zusammenstellung 4'''    Zugfahrzeug  - Anhänger<br>
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'''Combination 4'''    Towing vehicle - trailerr<br>
Motorwagen 4 V vom Anhänger der mit 1-3 V Akku versorgt wird.<br>
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Motor car 4 V from the trailer is supplied with 1-3 V battery.<br>
  
 
[[File:kombi5.png]]<br>
 
[[File:kombi5.png]]<br>
'''Zusammenstellung 5'''    Zugfahrzeug  - Anhänger<br>
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'''Combination 5'''    Towing vehicle - trailer<br>
  
 
[[File:kombi6.png]]<br>
 
[[File:kombi6.png]]<br>
'''Zusammenstellung 6'''    Zugfahrzeug  - Anhänger<br>
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'''Combination 6'''    Towing vehicle - trailer<br>
Motorwagen 3-5 V vom Anhänger der auch mit 3-5 V Akku selber versorgt wird.<br>
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Motorcar 3-5 V from the trailer is also supplied with 3-5 V battery itself.<br>
  
 
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[[file:kombi7.png]]<br>
'''Zusammenstellung 7'''    Zugfahrzeug  - Anhänger<br>
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'''Combination 7'''    Towing vehicle - trailer<br>
Motorwagen 1-3 V Akku  Anhänger 3-5 V Akku selbst versorgt<br>
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Motor car 1-3 V battery trailer 3-5 V battery self-powered.<br>
  
Die normalerweise verwendete und auch preisgünstigste Anwendung ist die Nummer 3. Dabei wird aber der Spannungswandler im Motorwagen mehr belastet.<br>
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The normally used and least expensive application is number 3. However, the voltage transformer in the towing vehicle is more heavily loaded. <br>
Wird im Anhänger ein eigener Akku verwendet, so kann dieser kleiner ausgelegt werden, da der Decoder im Anhänger wesentlich weniger Strombedarf hat.<br>
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If a separate battery is used in the trailer, it can be made smaller, because the decoder in the trailer has much less power consumption
 
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Vorteile des Anhänger Decoders:<br>
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Advantages of the trailer decoder: <br>
Nur wenige Kabel notwendig vom LKW zum Anhänger. <br>
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Only a few cables needed from the truck to the trailer. <br>
Dadurch ist es möglich die Verbindung auch steckbar zu machen.<br>
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This makes it possible to make the connection pluggable. <br>
Geschickte Bastler bringen es bestimmt fertig eine automatische Kupplung einzubauen.<br>
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Skilled hobbyists will definitely be ready to install an automatic clutch. <br>
Alle Lichter am Anhänger werden synchron zum Motorwagen geschaltet.<br>
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All the lights on the trailer are synchronized with the towing vehicle. <br>
Durch weiterschleifen der Verbindung können auch mehrere Anhänger an einen LKW angehängt werden.<br>
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By further grinding the connection several trailers can be attached to a truck. <br>
Für Sattelzüge werden auch weniger Kabel benötigt, wenn im Auflieger ein Anhänger-Decoder verwendet wird.<br>
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For semitrailer tractors, fewer cables are needed if a trailer decoder is used in the trailer. <br>
 
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==Sonderfälle==
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'''Weitere Funktionen:'''<br>
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==Special Cases ==  
Wird ein Fototransistor an den Anhänger-Decoder (DC04-SI) angeschlossen, können sogar die CVs programmiert werden.<br>
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'''Other functions:''' <br>
'''Hinweis:'''
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If a phototransistor is connected to the trailer decoder (DC04-SI), even the CVs can be programmed. <br>
An dem Anhänger-Decoder kann kein Motor betrieben werden, auch wenn der Transistor aus produktionstechnischen Gründen vorhanden ist !<br>
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'''Note:'''
=Einstellung=
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No motor can be operated on the trailer decoder, even if the transistor is available for production reasons! <br>
'''Einstellung der [[CV20]] im Motorwagen:'''<br>
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Um die Kommunikation zum Anhänger einzuschalten, muss in die CV20 Zugfahrzugdecoder der '''Wert 4 oder 12''' gesetzt sein.<br>
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= Setting =
'''Einstellung der [[CV21]] in beiden Decodern:'''<br>
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'''Setting the [[CV20]] in the towing vehicle:''' <br>
Die '''Werte 4 oder 24 in der CV21''' im Anhänger-Decoder müssen genauso gesetzt sein wie in dem Decoder im Motorwagen. Sonst funktioniert die Kommunikation zwischen den beiden Decodern nicht richtig.<br>
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In order to activate communication to the trailer, the CV20 train train decoder must be set to '''value 4 or 12'''
In diesem Fall können die Lichter am Anhänger wild durcheinander blinken oder es tut sich gar nichts.
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'''Setting the [[CV21]] in both decoders:''' <br>
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The '''values ​​4 or 24 in the CV21''' in the trailer decoder must be set exactly the same as in the decoder in the towing vehicle. Otherwise the communication between the two decoders will not work properly. <br>
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In this case, the lights on the trailer can flash wildly or nothing happens.
 
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'''Einstellung des Anhängerdecoders:'''<br>
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'''Trailer decoder setting:''' <br>
* An der Updatebuchse den [[CV-Programmer]] benutzen.
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* Use the [[CV-Programmer]] on the update socket.
* Den IR-Empfänger-Anschluss des Anhänger mit dem Anschluss vom Zugfahrzeug IR-Empfänger verbinden. Dann reagiert der Anhänger auf die IR-Signale wie der Motorwagen.
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* Connect the trailer's IR receiver port to the tractor's IR receiver port. Then the trailer responds to the IR signals as the motor car.
Wenn man erst die Adresse des Zugdecoder ändert, z.B. CV1=5, dann kann man den Anhänger weiterhin über die Adresse 1 verändern ohne das der Zugdecoder verändert wird.
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If one first changes the address of the train decoder, e.g. CV1 = 5, then you can continue to change the trailer via address 1 without changing the train decoder.
* Mit einem 470 KOhm Widerstand und Minus am Digitalanschluss einer DCC-Anlage anschließen.
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* Connect a 470 KOhm resistor and minus to the digital connection of a DCC system.
 
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Den Anhängerdecoder [[DC05-SI-A]], [[DC05-I-A]] kann man verstellen:<br>
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The trailer decoder [[DC05-SI-A]], [[DC05-I-A]] can be adjusted: <br>
* Am Eingang werden Fototransistoren angeschlossen.
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* Phototransistors are connected at the input.
Mit einer Digitalzenrtale kann der Anhängerdecoder verstellt werden.<br>
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With a Digitalzenrtale the trailer decoder can be adjusted
 
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'''Abstandssteuerung mit einem Anhänger:'''<br>
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'''Distance control with a trailer:''' <br>
Die rückwärtigen Infrarot-LEDs die am Anhänger-Decoder angeschlossen sind, halten den Verfolger auf Abstand.<br>
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The rear infrared LEDs connected to the trailer decoder keep the tracker at bay. <br>
Es werden keien XT-Signale übertragen<br.>
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No XT signals are transmitted <br>
 
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'''Akkuladezustand:'''<br>
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'''Battery Status''' in
Wenn der Anhänger einen eigenen Akku hat, so kann dieser auch mit dem Decoder überwacht werden.<br>
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If the trailer has its own battery, it can also be monitored with the decoder. <br>
Blinkfunktion der Bremslichter!<br>
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Flashing function of the brake lights! <br>
Kein Übermittung ans XT-Modul!<br>
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No transmission to the XT module! <br>
 
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'''Lichtsensor:'''<br>
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'''Light sensor''' in
Wenn der Motorwagen über einen Lichtsensor verfügt, so benötigt der Anhänger keinen weiteren Lichtsensor.<br>
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If the towing vehicle has a light sensor, the trailer will not need another light sensor. <br>
Die Beleuchtung im Anhänger wird auch in diesem Fall syncron ein- oder ausgeschaltet.<br>
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The lighting in the trailer is switched on or off syncron in this case as well. <br>
 
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=Drahtloser_Anhänger=
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=Wireless Trailer =  
Erweiterung zum kabellosen Anhänger siehe [[Drahtloser_Anhänger]]<br>
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Extension to the wireless trailer see [[Wireless trailer]] <br>
 
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=Weitere Einsatzmöglichkeiten=
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= Further applications =
Um noch mehr Lichtausgänge zu erhalten, kann auch der Anhänger-Decoder zusätzlich einbaut werden.  
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To get even more light outputs, the trailer decoder can also be installed.
Dadurch stehen 4 weitere Blaulichter und ein Frontblitzer zur Verfügung.<br>
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There are 4 more blue lights and a front flashlight available. <br>
Wenn die Zeiten über die CV-Einstellung verändert werden, laufen diese Einsatzlichter asyncron zu den bereits vorhandenen Lichtern oder können als Dauerlichter benutzt werden.<br>
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If the timings are changed via the CV setting, these insert lights will run asynchronously to the already existing lights or can be used as permanent lights. <br>
 
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Latest revision as of 10:08, 21 March 2018

[File:g-anh.jpg|500px|thumb|right|Picture: Torsten Sauer]] Der Anhänger-Decoder

General

Why was a special trailer decoder developed?
So far, a lot of wires were needed to power the lights on a trailer.

  • For light vehicles, the trailer hangs rigidly on the cables and does not deflect.
  • Trailers with many cables are difficult to hang off and on again.
  • For semi-trailers it is not easy to lay the many wires through the kingpin.

Not only for vehicles with trailer this decoder is suitable. This can also increase the number of outputs to connect more lights.

The trailer decoder consists essentially of the well-known decoder hardware and special software.
The turn signals etc. in the trailer are switched on or off synchronously with the towing vehicle.

Only when the towing vehicle sends a signal will the lights shine.
The trailer decoder does not show the turn signals or brake light like a towing vehicle when switched on.




What will transfer

Which functions are transferred to the trailer:

* Rear light * Brake light * Left turn signal * Right turn signal * Rear infrared
* Blue light * Front flasher * Light 1 * Light 2 * Light 3

It is transmitted no feedback signal! Thus, the XT module can not evaluate.
The distance signal is sufficient as feedback for the S88-IR.
The distance signal can not be switched off on the DC05-A or DC05-SA.

Cable connection

1.Cable connection
Only 2 cables are needed if the trailer has its own battery.
3 cables are needed if the trailer does not have its own battery and is powered by the motor car

Possible decoders

2. Possible battery and decoder combinations:

CompilationTruck or tractorKabelWhich voltage
is transmitted
Trailer
1 DC07-SI (DC05-SI,DC04-SI) with battery 1-3 Volt
DC07-I (DC05-I,DC04-I, DC08-I)
with battery 3-5 Volt
2 noDC05-SI-A (DC04-SI-A) with battery 1-3 Volt
DC05-S-A (DC04-S-A) with battery 1-3 Volt
DC05-A (DC04-A) with battery 3-5 Volt
2DC07-SI (DC05-SI) with battery 1-3 Volt
DC07-I (DC05-I,DC08-I) with battery 3-5 Volt
3 Voltage 1-3 Volt
Voltage 3-5 Volt
DC05-SI(DC04-SI) 1-3 Volt
DC06-I-A 3-5 Volt
3 DC07-SI (DC05-SI, DC04-SI) with battery 3 + 4 - 5 Volt DC05-A, DC06-I-A (DC04-A)
4 DC07-I (DC05-I) without battery
DC07-I(DC05-I, DC08-I) without battery
4 + 1 - 3 Volt and
+ 4 - 5 Volt
DC05-S-A with battery 1-3 Volt
DC05-A with battery 3-5 Volt







Connection diagramms

File:Kombi1.gif
Combination 1 Towing vehicle - trailer
Motor car 1-3 V and trailer 1-3 V each have their own battery.

File:Kombi2.gif
Combination 2 Towing vehicle - trailer
Motor vehicle 1-3 V and the trailer are powered by the same battery.

Kombi3.png
Combination 3 Towing vehicle - trailer
Motor vehicle 1-3 V and the trailer is supplied with 4 V from the motor car.

Kombi4.png
Combination 4 Towing vehicle - trailerr
Motor car 4 V from the trailer is supplied with 1-3 V battery.

Kombi5.png
Combination 5 Towing vehicle - trailer

File:Kombi6.png
Combination 6 Towing vehicle - trailer
Motorcar 3-5 V from the trailer is also supplied with 3-5 V battery itself.

File:Kombi7.png
Combination 7 Towing vehicle - trailer
Motor car 1-3 V battery trailer 3-5 V battery self-powered.

The normally used and least expensive application is number 3. However, the voltage transformer in the towing vehicle is more heavily loaded.
If a separate battery is used in the trailer, it can be made smaller, because the decoder in the trailer has much less power consumption
Advantages of the trailer decoder:
Only a few cables needed from the truck to the trailer.
This makes it possible to make the connection pluggable.
Skilled hobbyists will definitely be ready to install an automatic clutch.
All the lights on the trailer are synchronized with the towing vehicle.
By further grinding the connection several trailers can be attached to a truck.
For semitrailer tractors, fewer cables are needed if a trailer decoder is used in the trailer.






Special Cases

Other functions:
If a phototransistor is connected to the trailer decoder (DC04-SI), even the CVs can be programmed.
Note: No motor can be operated on the trailer decoder, even if the transistor is available for production reasons!

Setting

Setting the CV20 in the towing vehicle:
In order to activate communication to the trailer, the CV20 train train decoder must be set to value 4 or 12 Setting the CV21 in both decoders:
The values ​​4 or 24 in the CV21 in the trailer decoder must be set exactly the same as in the decoder in the towing vehicle. Otherwise the communication between the two decoders will not work properly.
In this case, the lights on the trailer can flash wildly or nothing happens.

Trailer decoder setting:

  • Use the CV-Programmer on the update socket.
  • Connect the trailer's IR receiver port to the tractor's IR receiver port. Then the trailer responds to the IR signals as the motor car.

If one first changes the address of the train decoder, e.g. CV1 = 5, then you can continue to change the trailer via address 1 without changing the train decoder.

  • Connect a 470 KOhm resistor and minus to the digital connection of a DCC system.


The trailer decoder DC05-SI-A, DC05-I-A can be adjusted:

  • Phototransistors are connected at the input.

With a Digitalzenrtale the trailer decoder can be adjusted
Distance control with a trailer:
The rear infrared LEDs connected to the trailer decoder keep the tracker at bay.
No XT signals are transmitted

Battery Status in If the trailer has its own battery, it can also be monitored with the decoder.
Flashing function of the brake lights!
No transmission to the XT module!

Light sensor in If the towing vehicle has a light sensor, the trailer will not need another light sensor.
The lighting in the trailer is switched on or off syncron in this case as well.



Wireless Trailer

Extension to the wireless trailer see Wireless trailer

Further applications

To get even more light outputs, the trailer decoder can also be installed. There are 4 more blue lights and a front flashlight available.
If the timings are changed via the CV setting, these insert lights will run asynchronously to the already existing lights or can be used as permanent lights.